New furling jib

Just this one with a jib pole.  We only use the pole when goose winging before the wind.  The disc at the top in the other picture is actually a metal ash tray to stop the sail getting wound into the forestay when furling.  It didn’t come with the kit.

Thanks Greg.  Here are the  two parts of the furling kit, with the top section in the sail lowered position.

Hi Victoria,

Your images show up fine on my phone and tablet, which seems to resize them perfectly. However, they are hideously over-sized on my desktop and require a great deal of scrolling around to see what the they are meant to show!

In fact, you posted them three years ago, but then they were posted as file attachments and easy to deal with as one was forced to open them in an image viewer app outside the forum.

I have a half prepared page dating from that time that is almost ready to post on the main site.  It was going to cover both furling and reefing systems, but  I was waiting for further photographs which I was hoping to get from Brian Johnson.

For those on laptops/desktops I'll repost your photos with the options FLOAT: CENTER and RESIZE: BIG SIZE set. That should make the better suited for all devices.

No I won't!

They all come out sideways which is just as unhelpful!

I have a feeling that it's the owner at Nabble, the hosts at the forum, that is messing with the system.

He is threatening to close it down as he says it is unprofitable, so I am currently investigating alternative forum software.

I'll report more formally when I have made a decision on what is to be done!

Sorry Greg I completely forgot to send the images to you!  I took these when the mast was down but I think they show how the furler works.  The jib is hoisted on a block attached to the top of the foil so no chance of the forestay getting twisted.    Note the link line on port side of the bow that stops the furler body from rotating.   I also have a couple of images of how we hoisted the boat on to two dumpy bags of corn to remove and treat the keel.  Please feel free to move these another section of the forum.

Hi again and thanks for the many useful replies on this topic.

Going back to Perry's note on roller reefing not really being needed for a Seahawk, I think I agree with this without having much experience on the matter. My main objective is to have a roller furling so that it is easy to get the jib in and out + the storage advantage. With this objective I took the chance and bought a nearly complete "Nemo Wonderfurl TR". For new the complete system cost is around 1200 pound and I paid less than 100. However, it may be that the parts are not suitable for a Seahawk? Now I am considering the solution described by Perry and Marsh Marigold. And I am trying to figure out if the pieces I have can be used in this way with a swivel at top and bottom and the sail wire in between. I would think that the drum/swivel at the bottom can be used in such a setup also?

The nemo wonderfurl system can be seen here:
https://www.nemoindustrie.com/en/sailboat-accessories/jib-furlers/#gref

I have all pieces except for the foil. The only foil I have is the sail-feeder piece.

Many thanks for taking the time to give advice

BR Thomas

Hi Thomas,

hardbob wrote

Going back to Perry's note on roller reefing not really being needed for a Seahawk, I think I agree with this without having much experience on the matter. My main objective is to have a roller furling so that it is easy to get the jib in and out + the storage advantage.

Just a minor observation from me on this one! Note that the subject line of the topic includes "jib", not foresail or genoa.

If you have a Reedcraft boat and the standard jib then I would not disagree with you or Perry.

However, many Moore's boats were supplied with a genoa and furling gear. For those boats the ability to reef the genoa is clearly essential.

Thanks for the observation. So fare I only have the jib. But with time and experience, a Genoa might also be part of Totte's inventory. Especially if I end up getting all the pieces for the Wonderfurl.

Best regards, T




 

Hello,

Did you manage to get a good furling jib for your boat. what did you buy? I am asking because i am looking to buy it for my  boat Sunny.
Thanks for your reply.

Happy sailing, Elly

Hi Elly

I didn't buy a new job for my boat - it was a mainsail - but if I did I would only buy from Jeckells!  They have the dimensions of all Seahawk sails and make superb quality sails at a very reasonable price.  For a new furling sail I would probably buy a genoa so that it could be used to give more drive in light airs.  I would also put a couple more eyes on the cabin roof to give different positions for the sheets, depending on how much sail I had unfurled.  

Hope this helps

Brian

Hello Brian, thank you for your reply. I will contact them.

Yes, thank you Brian

Hi Elly
Sorry about the late reply. I bought most parts of a "Nemo Wonderfurl TR model" cheap in used condition, and later secured additional parts in new condition directly from the Nemo supplier in Italy. I have not yet installed this furling gear and I am looking to get some professional help with this (attaching a new 4 mm forestay and servicing the drop-keel). I was thinking about using a local sailesmaker to make me a genoa, but I will also contact Jeckels and see what the price is. Possibly I will also get a new mainsail.

Happy sailing :-)

Hi Brian

Do you have a picture showing where you have attached additional eyes on the cabin roof for various degree of furling?

Best regards, Thomas (Hardbob)

Hi Thomas

I don't have a picture of the two eyes as the boat is in storage under a heavy cover until June.  One of the eyes is in the standard position with the other about 2' further aft.  I think the aft eye was originally intended for the genoa rather than used for furling purposes.  AFAIK Seahawks were originally supplied with hank on sails,  but later boats might have had an optional furler from new.  Mine has had the sails replaced at least twice since the 70s.

Regards Brian

Hi Both,

The 1991 Price List confirms that reefing gear was not standard on SeaHawks till the 1992 season.

The standard position for the fair leads on the cabin roof can be seen on the Rigging Page. While Moores changed the angle of the aft fitting the location was the same as on Reedcraft boats. Moore's point at the winch that they fitted as standard rather than the cabin face jamb cleats of Reedcraft boats, .

Only the few boats built by Pyecraft had a different arrangement, with a single fairlead on the cabin roof and jamb cleat mounted on the ridge at the back of the cabin - but their boats were supplied with a large jib, rather than a genoa. It didn't reach past the shrouds and the sheets were designed to be taken inside them.

I had no furling gear and would take the sheets on the Genoa outside the shrouds to the aft fairlead. While the jib sheets needed to pass through both fairleads and so are inside the shrouds. It was always clear to me that those with furling gear had to take a decision when hoisting sails whether you were going to keep the sail in jib or Genoa mode as can't switch between them without re-rigging.